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Does anyone know where I can find a copy of this dance. I need both the dance instructions and to find a copy of music that can be listened to.
This is for a friend who is currently residing in Hawaii, so I can't just tell him to come to Gaskell's and learn it, but I think he is trying to learn it so he can dance it next time he can get to the bay area.
Thanks in advance!
This is for a friend who is currently residing in Hawaii, so I can't just tell him to come to Gaskell's and learn it, but I think he is trying to learn it so he can dance it next time he can get to the bay area.
Thanks in advance!
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Re: Congress of Vienna
Tue, January 23, 2007 - 7:26 PMthe brassword cd "congress of vienna" has it. so does one of the bangers and mash cds. i think brassworks is on itunes.
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Re: Congress of Vienna
Tue, January 23, 2007 - 7:42 PMYou can purchase a CD of it from Frank Davis, the Brassworks trumpet player.
The dance was created By John Hertz from some Scandinavian folk records. I had a friend of mine check the copyright clearance who worked for the library of congress. As John combined elements from several recording into a new work. The new work belongs to John. However as the lead sheets were written by other such as Frank and no one has made any claims in the 20 or so years this has been used at Gaskells, it is probably considered an "undocumented folk song." Just be sure to credit John and Frank when you use it.
Anyway here is the leadsheet in abc music notation. You can learn more about this musical notation and how to convert to midi from this wicki site:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABC_..._notation)
X: 1
T: Congress of Vienna
M: 3/4
L: 1/8
K:C
e2|"Am"(c2 A2) e2|"Em/G"(B2 G2) e2|"F"(A2 F2) e2|"E"E4 e2 \
P:A
|:"Am"(c2 A2) e2|"Am/G"(c2 A2) e2|
|"Em"(d2 B2 G2|"E/D"E4) (^F^G|"Am/C"A2 ^G2 A2|"G/D" {c}B2 {cB}A2 B2)|"Am/E"(c>d cB c2|"F"A6)|
|"D"(({g}^f)e f^gaf|"Am"edef e2)|("Dm/F"dc defd|"Am/E"cBcd c2)|("G"B/2c/2B/2A/2 Bc"Em"dB |
|1 "Am"A4) e2:|2 "Am"A4) (GA \
P:B
|:"G"B2 ^c2 d2)|"Bm/D"(^fe d^c B2)|"D/F#"(a2 ^f2 d2)|"Bm/E"(^fe) (d^c) B2|
|"G"(B2 ^c2 d2)|"Bm/D"(^fe d^c B2)|"G/B"(ba"C#dim"ga"D"^fd|1 "A/E"e4) (GA:|2 "Em"e6) \
P:C
|:"Em/A"(e3 d ^cB)|
|"Am"A>A A2 A2|c>c "Em"B>B E2|((3BcB) "Am"A2 A2|"Em/A"(e3 d ^cB)|"Am"A>A A2 A2|c>c "Em"B>B G>G|
|"Am"A2 A2 z2 \
P:D
::z2 z2 e2|"A"(e2 ^c2) c2|(^c2 e2 g2)|("D"(3g^fe f2 d2)|"D"(d2 ^f2 a2)|
|"A7"(a3 g e2)|(^c2 e2 g2)|"D"({a}(3gfe f2 d2)|"A"e2 e2 z2 \
P:E
:|z6|"Em/A"(e3 d ^cB)|"Am"A>A A2 A2|
|c>c "Em"B>B G2|((3BcB) "Am"A2 A2|"Em/A"(e3 d ^cB)|"Am"A>A A2 A2|c>c "Em"B>B G>G|"Am"A2 A2 z2|z2 z2 e2|]
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Re: Congress of Vienna
Fri, January 26, 2007 - 7:00 PMIncidentally, Bangers & Mash got John's permission to record the dance. I have no information as
to whether Brassworks did, but I was the intermediary who put Craig and Stan in touch with John.
Piggybacking on this topic, I'd like to mention that Congress of Vienna was written for Regency dancing,
and we do it at each Bay Area English Regency Society ball, along with many free waltzes, long-set dances
and sometimes other choreographed waltzes. The next BAERS ball is the racy, flirty Cyprians' Ball, coming
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Re: Congress of Vienna
Sat, January 27, 2007 - 10:58 AMIn searching the web for CoV references, I found one site that claimed that CoV was danced during the congress in 1814
it seems that there are enough other references to it, that someone putting a history page together wouldn't make that mistake, but you can never go broke underestimating the average american.
I know that Frank also talked to John about the music, Frank was attempting to find out what the original sources were, so that he could credit them also. -
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Re: Congress of Vienna
Tue, January 30, 2007 - 9:01 AMI actually just came back from Vienna and toured the Schonbrunn Palace with its magnificant ballrom. According to the the information at the site, a Ball was held in that room to celebrate the "Congress of Vienna" conference...
Which is to say...they danced AT the Congress of Vienna...but they didn't dance THE congress of vienna AT the congress of vienna.
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Re: Congress of Vienna
Wed, January 31, 2007 - 6:32 PMThey pretty much danced every night at the Congress of Vienna. They may have not
got a lot of diplomatizing done (if memory serves, Talleyrand was successfully
obstructionist in the "let's carve up France so this doesn't happen again" discussions),
but they sure danced.
There's a German operetta film from the early 1930s, "Congress Dances", which is a lot
of fun and has some terrific costumes. (And the dashing young Tsar of Russia is the
romantic lead, which is pretty mind boggling.)
BAERS held a "Congress of Vienna" Ball a few years ago.
-- Alan
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Re: Congress of Vienna
Wed, February 21, 2007 - 7:37 PM"but you can never go broke underestimating the average american."
I always used to say that until OJ's book got nixed.
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Re: Congress of Vienna
Fri, January 26, 2007 - 10:25 PMEasy to play, esp. on guitar as it's in Am. :->
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Re: Congress of Vienna
Tue, January 23, 2007 - 7:52 PMboth the brassworks album, congress of vienna, and the bangers & mash album, breakfast at fezziwig's have the music.
the earliest recording that i've heard of if is available at tibit.com/congress/
there is video on youtube at www.youtube.com/watch
if the link fails look for it by name.
I have a booklet with john hertz's instructions, you can borow it next time you're over.
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Re: Congress of Vienna
Wed, January 24, 2007 - 8:55 AMMaybe it's just my computer, but the video and audio on the you tube is off. Either that or all of the dancers are about 10 beats ahead of the band. -
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Re: Congress of Vienna
Wed, January 24, 2007 - 9:31 AMIt's got to be a problem with video-audio, there's no way you'd see the whole floor that far off in the waltz bit.
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Re: Congress of Vienna
Wed, January 24, 2007 - 10:18 AMwww.fridaynightwaltz.com/cov.html has the steps. -
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Re: Congress of Vienna
Wed, January 31, 2007 - 6:41 PMI don't know if anybody actually cares, but there's at least one difference between the
dance as John Hertz wrote and published it, and how it's done here. At the end of the
promenade-position circle-in-place (where man goes backward, women forward),
John wrote:
"They dance one measure in place, flexing the knees slightly on the first count."
Tom has "Pause". The problem with "Pause" is that people have trouble merely pausing
for a whole measure pausing, and lots of them start on the next thing somewhat early.
Admittedly, almost nobody in the Bay Area actually does the knee-flex thing, and as far as I
know I'm the only person who ever teaches it, and somehow the heavens don't crumble.
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Re: Congress of Vienna
Tue, February 20, 2007 - 2:45 AMHmm. I probably missed that when I took the class from John. I'm sure you're right, though.
I also see people just continue moving forward for one more measure, but that tends to make it harder to get back where you started. (5 measures forward vs. 4 back.)
I'd definitely like to look at John's instructions, I wrote my from memory.
Tom
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Re: Congress of Vienna
Thu, February 22, 2007 - 4:14 PMJust mentioning this for closure: I sent Tom a copy of John's instructions off-list.
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